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		<title>Comment on The Wing-Beat by author</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jul 2010 09:43:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More on how people read scripture: preachers say it is a matter of whether the Scriptures read us, that is, whether the Lord of the Scriptures has a hearing in receptive minds and hearts.  I, with Luther and Rosenzweig, say that a society&#039;s Bible-reading habits show up in that society&#039;s character--let me suggest in the way it regards, cares for the poor, the orphans, the widowed, the prisoner, the foreigner.  Neither the Tanakh/OT or Jesus let anyone &quot;off the hook&quot; on those counts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More on how people read scripture: preachers say it is a matter of whether the Scriptures read us, that is, whether the Lord of the Scriptures has a hearing in receptive minds and hearts.  I, with Luther and Rosenzweig, say that a society&#8217;s Bible-reading habits show up in that society&#8217;s character&#8211;let me suggest in the way it regards, cares for the poor, the orphans, the widowed, the prisoner, the foreigner.  Neither the Tanakh/OT or Jesus let anyone &#8220;off the hook&#8221; on those counts.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Wing-Beat by author</title>
		<link>http://jerrysummers.com/2010/07/12/the-wing-beat/comment-page-1/#comment-191</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jul 2010 09:33:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rosenzweig was saying more than that the two &quot;spirits&quot; joined as one in a new translation: the product good be for good or evil--that&#039;s my way of saying it. For example, the Luther Bible became the basis (a leading basis?) for modern German; the case is strong for that.  Rosenzweig and Martin Buber were preparing a new German translation of the Hebrew/OT Scriptures that would &quot;make room for the Hebrew&quot; as Oona Eisenstadt put it in a 2001 article in the Journal of the American Academy of Religion. The gist of the effort was that modern, Protestant, Lutheran, German society left little room for the Jews, and the Bible most Germans read was one reason for it. Well, Herr Professor Rosenzweig, there is something to that, but to impute so much systemic Anti-Semitism to the Scriptures in a modern German translation is too great a burden to shove onto Doktor Luther, even if he pulled his own antisemitic weight (the greatest ones sometimes have compensating flaws). But Rosenzweig had a point: at least many Germans, including German Jews, had developed Bible reading habits (if they read the Bible) that ranged far afield from the gospel teachings or the Law, the Prophets, and the Writings (Tanakh). Many people placed their highest Christian or cultural hopes in German imperialism and nationalism, and there was the potential terror.  So what&#039;s my point? It is that everyone and all groups sooner or later turn the Scriptures to their own preferred meanings and uses. The only antidote is to keep oneself turning constantly, faithfully to the LORD of Scripture.  Rosenzweig and Buber translated so that modern, western Jews would change their minds and their reading habits as they read a new, modern German translation that resembled the Hebrew Scriptures in its meaning and force. And Rosenzweig had a point I think is true after all these years, that the Scripture translation most used in a Christian culture has dominant influence. That was true of the Authorized (&quot;King James&quot;) Version for the Protestant, English-speaking world, but no longer. (For Catholics it was the Latin Vulgate and its translation, and is it not true of Arabic culture and the Qur&#039;an?) But look now at us with our multiple translations--our versions--and while we find great freedom in our textual choices, have we any more freedom in contemplating the will of the LORD? I believe the freedom is there should one seek it; I think few actually seek freedom&#039;s depths as they might, the &quot;oughts&quot; and &quot;habits&quot; in which we move and have our being are so strong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rosenzweig was saying more than that the two &#8220;spirits&#8221; joined as one in a new translation: the product good be for good or evil&#8211;that&#8217;s my way of saying it. For example, the Luther Bible became the basis (a leading basis?) for modern German; the case is strong for that.  Rosenzweig and Martin Buber were preparing a new German translation of the Hebrew/OT Scriptures that would &#8220;make room for the Hebrew&#8221; as Oona Eisenstadt put it in a 2001 article in the Journal of the American Academy of Religion. The gist of the effort was that modern, Protestant, Lutheran, German society left little room for the Jews, and the Bible most Germans read was one reason for it. Well, Herr Professor Rosenzweig, there is something to that, but to impute so much systemic Anti-Semitism to the Scriptures in a modern German translation is too great a burden to shove onto Doktor Luther, even if he pulled his own antisemitic weight (the greatest ones sometimes have compensating flaws). But Rosenzweig had a point: at least many Germans, including German Jews, had developed Bible reading habits (if they read the Bible) that ranged far afield from the gospel teachings or the Law, the Prophets, and the Writings (Tanakh). Many people placed their highest Christian or cultural hopes in German imperialism and nationalism, and there was the potential terror.  So what&#8217;s my point? It is that everyone and all groups sooner or later turn the Scriptures to their own preferred meanings and uses. The only antidote is to keep oneself turning constantly, faithfully to the LORD of Scripture.  Rosenzweig and Buber translated so that modern, western Jews would change their minds and their reading habits as they read a new, modern German translation that resembled the Hebrew Scriptures in its meaning and force. And Rosenzweig had a point I think is true after all these years, that the Scripture translation most used in a Christian culture has dominant influence. That was true of the Authorized (&#8220;King James&#8221;) Version for the Protestant, English-speaking world, but no longer. (For Catholics it was the Latin Vulgate and its translation, and is it not true of Arabic culture and the Qur&#8217;an?) But look now at us with our multiple translations&#8211;our versions&#8211;and while we find great freedom in our textual choices, have we any more freedom in contemplating the will of the LORD? I believe the freedom is there should one seek it; I think few actually seek freedom&#8217;s depths as they might, the &#8220;oughts&#8221; and &#8220;habits&#8221; in which we move and have our being are so strong.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Wing-Beat by author</title>
		<link>http://jerrysummers.com/2010/07/12/the-wing-beat/comment-page-1/#comment-187</link>
		<dc:creator>author</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jul 2010 12:05:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At least one translation uses the term &quot;genii&quot; instead of &quot;spirits.&quot;  Aside from changes in the way we use language, &quot;genii&quot; fits - genius is an ancient word referring to the essential spirit of something; usually we connect it with pagan conceptions, but not always.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At least one translation uses the term &#8220;genii&#8221; instead of &#8220;spirits.&#8221;  Aside from changes in the way we use language, &#8220;genii&#8221; fits &#8211; genius is an ancient word referring to the essential spirit of something; usually we connect it with pagan conceptions, but not always.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Drones over Al-Qaeda by Brandon H</title>
		<link>http://jerrysummers.com/2010/04/05/drones-over-al-qaeda/comment-page-1/#comment-180</link>
		<dc:creator>Brandon H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 May 2010 04:29:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is no end to conflict and war. No modernization will do away with such a thing. Just like no modernization has done away with the need to walk, eat, argue, work, love, cherish, and a whole host of human emotions and reactions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is no end to conflict and war. No modernization will do away with such a thing. Just like no modernization has done away with the need to walk, eat, argue, work, love, cherish, and a whole host of human emotions and reactions.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Global Thanksgiving by Ferrando Yun</title>
		<link>http://jerrysummers.com/2006/11/22/global-thanksgiving/comment-page-1/#comment-162</link>
		<dc:creator>Ferrando Yun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 15:27:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello everybody, it is Thanksgiving Day! I&#039;m happy with my extra day off, and I am planning to doing something fun that will probably involve a moto trip and seeing something new in Geddes I haven&#039;t seen yet.
You write something new at Thanksgiving?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello everybody, it is Thanksgiving Day! I&#8217;m happy with my extra day off, and I am planning to doing something fun that will probably involve a moto trip and seeing something new in Geddes I haven&#8217;t seen yet.<br />
You write something new at Thanksgiving?</p>
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		<title>Comment on It&#8217;s Poring, not Pouring. by Jerry</title>
		<link>http://jerrysummers.com/2009/03/15/its-poring-not-pouring/comment-page-1/#comment-142</link>
		<dc:creator>Jerry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 00:34:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whoops!  Too late . . . but I did think Idiocracy was an outrageous satire, easy to discount, frightening in its basic premise that our society is hopelessly clueless, and so the film is &quot;over the top.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whoops!  Too late . . . but I did think Idiocracy was an outrageous satire, easy to discount, frightening in its basic premise that our society is hopelessly clueless, and so the film is &#8220;over the top.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Human Error, Dilemma, Hope by a_new_reader</title>
		<link>http://jerrysummers.com/2009/02/21/human-error-dilemma-hope/comment-page-1/#comment-141</link>
		<dc:creator>a_new_reader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Apr 2009 03:27:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You pose a great question about cynicism vs. insight...he is indeed very cynical, but I do like his contrast between man&#039;s ignorance and wickedness and God&#039;s sovereignty and righteousness.

I am reminded of something I heard that was to the effect of &quot;God brings us into the depths of the darkness to show us that he is the light&quot;. 

I would like to take a look at this book sometime over the summer, it sounds like an interesting read.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You pose a great question about cynicism vs. insight&#8230;he is indeed very cynical, but I do like his contrast between man&#8217;s ignorance and wickedness and God&#8217;s sovereignty and righteousness.</p>
<p>I am reminded of something I heard that was to the effect of &#8220;God brings us into the depths of the darkness to show us that he is the light&#8221;. </p>
<p>I would like to take a look at this book sometime over the summer, it sounds like an interesting read.</p>
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		<title>Comment on It&#8217;s Poring, not Pouring. by a_new_reader</title>
		<link>http://jerrysummers.com/2009/03/15/its-poring-not-pouring/comment-page-1/#comment-140</link>
		<dc:creator>a_new_reader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Apr 2009 03:19:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, I have noticed this downturn in our language as well, even in some &quot;formal&quot; essays that people are writing for classes at ETBU (not throwing out any names), and it really is quite saddening. The words your and you&#039;re are especially frustrating to me because people seem to think that they are interchangeable, when in fact they are not (shocking, I know).

I remember seeing a movie called &quot;Idiocracy&quot; that was a commentary of sorts on what could be called the dumbing down of the American society or mankind in general. Don&#039;t see it, it is a mediocrity in and of itself although it does have an interesting idea behind it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I have noticed this downturn in our language as well, even in some &#8220;formal&#8221; essays that people are writing for classes at ETBU (not throwing out any names), and it really is quite saddening. The words your and you&#8217;re are especially frustrating to me because people seem to think that they are interchangeable, when in fact they are not (shocking, I know).</p>
<p>I remember seeing a movie called &#8220;Idiocracy&#8221; that was a commentary of sorts on what could be called the dumbing down of the American society or mankind in general. Don&#8217;t see it, it is a mediocrity in and of itself although it does have an interesting idea behind it.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Cheerleader Presidents by Crystal</title>
		<link>http://jerrysummers.com/2008/08/07/cheerleader-presidents/comment-page-1/#comment-83</link>
		<dc:creator>Crystal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2008 13:11:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like the insight on celebrity presidents.  I&#039;m curious too about how the Obama-as-celebrity arguments might play both ways.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like the insight on celebrity presidents.  I&#8217;m curious too about how the Obama-as-celebrity arguments might play both ways.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Persistence of Inadequate Ideas by Al_cat</title>
		<link>http://jerrysummers.com/2007/11/11/the-persistence-of-inadequate-ideas/comment-page-1/#comment-63</link>
		<dc:creator>Al_cat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 21:05:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AMEN BROTHER!</description>
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